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The Business of Learning is produced by the team at TrainingIndustry.com, and focuses on the intersection of business performance and human capital development. Our guests are experts and innovators in organizational learning and development, and we highlight original research on trends and best practices in corporate training.
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Monday Oct 30, 2023
The Business of Learning, Episode 69: Building a Digitally Fluent Workforce
Monday Oct 30, 2023
Monday Oct 30, 2023
Recent advancements in artificial intelligence (AI) and other technologies have made the need for digital skills training a top business imperative. Without digital skills, employees will be ill-equipped to do their jobs in today’s world of work — and in tomorrow’s.
In this episode of The Business of Learning, we spoke with Shauna Begley, founder of ModernWork and current program head of the business information technology management program at the Business Columbia Institute of Technology, and George Hanshaw, director of digital learning solutions at Los Angeles Pacific University, to learn more about building a digitally fluent workforce.
Listen now for insights on:
- The difference between digital fluency and digital literacy.
- Why “technical know-how” is just the beginning of cultivating digital fluency.
- How to assess your organization’s current level of digital fluency.

Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
The skills employees need to do their jobs today might look quite different from the skills they'll need to do their jobs even just a few years from now. In fact, The World Economic Forum’s 2023 Future of Jobs report found that 44% of workers’ core skills are expected to change in the next five years.
To stay competitive, it's imperative that organizations map the skills their employees need to be successful not only in today's business environment, but also in tomorrow's.
In this episode of The Business of Learning, we spoke with Rose Cartolari, founder and CEO of RC Consulting, and Lisa Paulson, L&D manager at Nesnah Ventures, to learn more about skills mapping, and how it can help improve workforce readiness.

Thursday Sep 21, 2023
The Business of Learning, Bonus Episode: AI in L&D — 5 Things You Need to Know
Thursday Sep 21, 2023
Thursday Sep 21, 2023
Advancements in artificial intelligence (AI) are impacting nearly every industry, including learning and development (L&D). With all the hype around AI, it makes sense that L&D professionals have some questions: How will AI impact the learning leader's role? How can it be used to make their jobs easier? How will it shape the future of corporate training as a whole?
Training Industry’s CEO, Ken Taylor, and Dr. Tom Whelan, director of research, recently sat down to discuss how AI is bringing both challenges and opportunities to the L&D field. Their conversation offers greater clarity for learning leaders around the future of L&D in the age of AI.
In this episode, we outline five things you need to know, as a learning leader, about AI and its potential to impact corporate training as we know it.

Monday Aug 28, 2023
Monday Aug 28, 2023
From virtual instructor-led training (VILT) to eLearning to virtual reality (VR), there's no shortage of training delivery modalities available to choose from. This means that determining which modalities are best for your programs can be a challenge — especially as advancements in artificial intelligence (AI) continue to bring innovative delivery options to the market.
In this episode of The Business of Learning, we spoke with Lauren LePage, a learning designer at Chick-Fil-A, Jeffrey Dyer, CPTM, a senior technical training manager, and Valerie Marsh, CPTM, director of learning and development at Jushi, to learn more about:
- How to select the right delivery modality for your programs.
- How to create a blended learning experience.
- How technology is impacting training delivery.

Tuesday Aug 22, 2023
Tuesday Aug 22, 2023
Measuring the business impact of training has long been a notorious challenge for learning and development (L&D) professionals, and rightly so: It requires a certain level of business savvy, in addition to working with stakeholders well before rolling out a program.
In this episode of The Business of Learning, we spoke with industry experts Lindsey Clayton, a learning and development consultant at Caterpillar, Dr. Allan Church, managing partner at Maestro Consulting and former senior vice president of global talent management at Pepsi Co., and Dr. Jaimie Krause, director of L&D at Indeed in global learning and enablement, for tips that can help "demystify" training measurement and prove the value of training to the business.

Monday Jun 26, 2023
Monday Jun 26, 2023
Today’s employees want to learn and grow, and they expect their organization to help them do it. In fact, LinkedIn Learning’s 2023 Workplace Learning Report found that the No. 1 way organizations are working to improve retention is by providing learning opportunities.
However, integrating learning into the employee experience is easier said than done. For many training professionals, who are busy rolling out mandatory compliance programs or initiatives requested by business leaders, it sits on the (seemingly never-ending) list of “nice-to-haves.”
In this just-released episode of The Business of Learning, we spoke with Sydney Savion, senior director of learning services at Google and member of Training Industry Magazine’s editorial board, Thomas Fenstermacher, CPTM, learning specialist at TrellisRX, and Eric McArdle, CPTM, and manager of training and knowledge management at Cisco, for tips that can help.
Listen now for insights on:
• The business benefits of creating a culture of learning.
• How to make time and space for employees to learn.
• The importance of leadership training in creating a positive employee experience.

Tuesday May 30, 2023
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Today's learners want training that is engaging and relevant to their job role — and they want to see how learning can help them achieve their career goals. In other words, standardized, check-box learning is no longer sufficient (if it ever was) when it comes to training the modern workforce.
In this episode of The Business of Learning, we sat down with Parker Donnafiled, CPTM, a learning specialist at Canvas Credit Union, and Keri Borba, L&D and talent development director at AAA Northeast, to learn what it takes to deliver personalized learning at scale: Because one size never truly fits all.

Thursday Apr 27, 2023
Thursday Apr 27, 2023
Today's workforce is more globally dispersed than ever before, with some employees logging on to the same virtual meeting oceans apart from their colleagues. While globalization has brought with it numerous opportunities for organizations (and employees), delivering training to an international audience can be a challenge.
In this episode of The Business of Learning, we spoke with Ken Stockman, senior L&D strategist at IBM Consulting, Melaine Mahabir, CPTM, knowledge management associate at Guardian Insurance, and Shezelle Krei, global head of learning and development at Western Union, to learn more about what it takes to train and develop globally dispersed learners.

Monday Mar 27, 2023
Monday Mar 27, 2023
From navigating gender bias to dealing with systemic issues like the pay gap, women have long faced challenges in the workplace. These challenges and more have led to what’s commonly known as the “women’s leadership gap,” or the underrepresentation of women in leadership, most notably in the C-suite.
In honor of Women’s History Month, in this episode of The Business of Learning, we spoke with Cathrin Stickney, founder and CEO of Parity.org, and Dr. Theresa Horne, CPTM, a speaker and government leader, to learn more about the women’s leadership gap — and how learning and development (L&D) can help.

Monday Feb 27, 2023
Monday Feb 27, 2023
LinkedIn Learning’s 2023 Workplace Learning report found that the C-suite’s top priority is keeping employees motivated and engaged. Their second highest priority? Giving employees opportunities to move into different roles within the business.
We wanted to find out more about how learning and development (L&D) can help organization support internal career mobility. So, in this episode, we spoke with Megan Dillon, senior manager of L&D at Q-Centrix, Rebecca Gaboda, CPTM, organizational development manager at Skyward, Inc., and Chris Massaro, CPTM, manager of learning and professional development at Androscoggin Home Healthcare and Hospice, to learn more.